{"id":5283,"date":"2017-07-12T15:19:44","date_gmt":"2017-07-12T20:19:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=5283"},"modified":"2017-07-12T15:19:44","modified_gmt":"2017-07-12T20:19:44","slug":"another-problem-with-ad-hominem-argument","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=5283","title":{"rendered":"Another problem with ad hominem argument"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve <a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3971\">posted<\/a> a few times here at NS about how to think of various functions of <em>ad hominem <\/em>abusive argument, how to see them as in the service of airing greivances, expressing exasperation, or even sometimes as being relevant.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 And then there are non-argumentative versions of abuse &#8212; that it&#8217;s just there for the sake of making the exchange unpleasant. (And thereby, upping the costs for critical dialogue, and consequently, providing motivation to avoid argument in the future.)<\/p>\n<p>President Trump has been the target for a number of abuses for his\u00c2\u00a0 purportedly small hands and his hair.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?attachment_id=5284\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5284\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5284 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/2017\/07\/trump-hair.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"204\" height=\"247\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And there are the <em>Mitch McConnell is a turtle<\/em> memes.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?attachment_id=5285\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5285\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5285 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/2017\/07\/turtle.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"255\" height=\"198\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Oh! And Ann Coulter is ugly memes, too.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?attachment_id=5286\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5286\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5286 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/2017\/07\/coulter-horse-300x158.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/2017\/07\/coulter-horse-300x158.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/2017\/07\/coulter-horse.jpg 310w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a little fun, for sure.\u00c2\u00a0 But then there are the <em>Hillary is ugly\/shrill\/horrible<\/em> line of thought, which (given my political bent) seems objectionable.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?attachment_id=5287\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5287\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5287 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/2017\/07\/hillary-300x286.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"286\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/2017\/07\/hillary-300x286.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/2017\/07\/hillary.jpg 599w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As John noted, sometimes, our communicative-argumentative exchanges are less in the service of inquiry, but for the sake of<a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=5220\"> airing of the grievances<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 But they can have a chilling effect on speech, and I think that taking too much pleasure in them (and spending a great deal of time thinking about them and making them) is bad for us.\u00c2\u00a0 It&#8217;s like spending too much time fantasizing about giving people you hate some comeuppance, or focusing on what a terrible person someone is.\u00c2\u00a0 It&#8217;s natural, but impedes solving the problem or getting on with the rest of your life.<\/p>\n<p>Now there is the focus on the appearance of Rob Goldstone, the Trump contact and publicist who made the introduction between Trump Jr. and Natalia Veselnitskaya. He&#8217;s a heafy guy.\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/entry\/rob-goldstone_us_59655b56e4b005b0fdc98967?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009\">Huffington Post&#8217;s<\/a> hook for the story is titled, <strong>&#8220;From Russia with Schlub.&#8221;<\/strong>\u00c2\u00a0 They lead with the fact that Goldstone declared himself &#8220;in a serious relationship with bread.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/07\/12\/style\/rob-goldstone-russia-trump.html\"> NYT&#8217;s story<\/a> is that Goldstone &#8220;Likes silly hats and Facebook.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"474\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Why does everyone involved with Trump look like a scene-stealer in a Coen brothers movie? <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/BOoJx0DOL4\">pic.twitter.com\/BOoJx0DOL4<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jason Sinclair (@jlsinc) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jlsinc\/status\/884817945909743620?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">July 11, 2017<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>The difference between the political cases and Goldstone is that with the latter, his appearance and his name on an email is all we seem to know about him.\u00c2\u00a0 And, again, isn&#8217;t focusing on his appearance a misuse of our time and an encouragement of our worst inclinations? John and I have been thinking quite a bit lately about the drawbacks of the <em>adversariality of argument &#8212; <\/em>seeing those you argue with as enemies or opponents.\u00c2\u00a0 For sure, that&#8217;s a good way to see disagreements, especially if you, <em>by hypothesis<\/em>, think someone&#8217;s <em>wrong.<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0 But this adversariality can start to get in the way of good argument, conviviality, and even minimal civility for just living together.\u00c2\u00a0 And so, in the same way that we cringe at the Festivus <em>airing of greivances, <\/em>we should cringe when we see others give in to the temptation of making fun of or taking pleasure in the opposition&#8217;s imperfect appearance.\u00c2\u00a0 Contempt breeds contempt.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve posted a few times here at NS about how to think of various functions of ad hominem abusive argument, how to see them as in the service of airing greivances, expressing exasperation, or even sometimes as being relevant.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 And then there are non-argumentative versions of abuse &#8212; that it&#8217;s just there for the sake &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=5283\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Another problem with ad hominem argument<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[40,42],"tags":[1702],"class_list":["post-5283","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ad-hominem","category-ad-hominem-abusive","tag-abusive-ad-hominem"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5283","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5283"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5283\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5288,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5283\/revisions\/5288"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5283"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5283"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5283"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}