{"id":5182,"date":"2017-03-27T15:09:29","date_gmt":"2017-03-27T20:09:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=5182"},"modified":"2017-03-27T15:09:29","modified_gmt":"2017-03-27T20:09:29","slug":"lying-to-my-face","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=5182","title":{"rendered":"Lying to my face"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the many perplexities of the study of argument is that people often (but not of course always) deploy bad arguments to favorable audiences. You don&#8217;t straw man an opponent to their face&#8211;you do it to people disposed already to find your interpretation acceptable.<\/p>\n<p>This raises an interesting question: I&#8217;m guessing that at least sometimes these audiences know that you&#8217;re doing it. They know you&#8217;re lying to them about your opponent&#8217;s view. Do they just not care? Or do they put up with it for &#8220;strategic&#8221; reasons?<\/p>\n<p>This question came up yesterday in regard to Trump&#8217;s constant lying. It turns out, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/news\/insight\/2017\/03\/26\/donald-trump-voters-we-like-the-presidents-lies.html\">according to one report<\/a>, that his supporters just do not care. An excerpt:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Robin Pierce, the owner of a men\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s clothing store in Newark, said he doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t think anybody wiretapped Trump. But Pierce, 70, was almost gleeful as he offered an explanation for Trump\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s claim.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153I think Trump just did that to freak them out \u00e2\u20ac\u201d they were giving him bad times, so he gave them bad times. Mess with their brains,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he said.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>He broke into a loud laugh.<\/p>\n<p>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153I like that,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he said. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Because we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve had so much crap in Washington for years, and now we have someone shaking \u00e2\u20ac\u2122em up really good.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, this is not reassuring. But here&#8217;s some research on point:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This research \u00e2\u20ac\u201d and those stories \u00e2\u20ac\u201d highlight a difficult truth about our species: We are intensely social creatures, but we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re prone to divide ourselves into competitive groups, largely for the purpose of allocating resources. People can be prosocial \u00e2\u20ac\u201d compassionate, empathic, generous, honest \u00e2\u20ac\u201d <strong>in their groups, and aggressively antisocial toward out-groups.<\/strong> When we divide people into groups, we open the door to competition, dehumanization, violence \u00e2\u20ac\u201d and socially sanctioned deceit.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"toggle-group target hideOnInit\" data-toggle-group=\"story-14737015\">\n<blockquote><p>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153People condone lying against enemy nations, and since<strong> many people now see those on the other side of American politics as enemies, they may feel that lies, when they recognize them, are appropriate means of warfare,<\/strong>\u00e2\u20ac\u009d said\u00c2\u00a0George Edwards, a Texas A&amp;M political scientist and one of the country\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s leading scholars of the presidency.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Unsurprisingly, people who tend to view these issues as a part of a contest or argument-as-war narrative are likely to act accordingly. This means foregrounding group-cohesion or coherence of a simple message has higher strategic value than getting some opponent&#8217;s view just right.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the many perplexities of the study of argument is that people often (but not of course always) deploy bad arguments to favorable audiences. You don&#8217;t straw man an opponent to their face&#8211;you do it to people disposed already to find your interpretation acceptable. This raises an interesting question: I&#8217;m guessing that at least &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=5182\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Lying to my face<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[2150,2151,294,1964,2152,2061],"class_list":["post-5182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","tag-argument-as-war","tag-deceit","tag-lying","tag-straw-man","tag-toronto-star","tag-trump"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5182","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5182"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5182\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5183,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5182\/revisions\/5183"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5182"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5182"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5182"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}