{"id":4598,"date":"2013-12-27T12:23:13","date_gmt":"2013-12-27T17:23:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4598"},"modified":"2013-12-27T18:39:32","modified_gmt":"2013-12-27T23:39:32","slug":"masters-of-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4598","title":{"rendered":"Masters of war"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/underthebluedoor.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/02\/masters-of-war.jpg?w=640\" width=\"410\" height=\"309\" \/><\/p>\n<p>This morning, I caught the tail end of an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/2013\/12\/27\/257524634\/stratgegist-kilcullen-warfare-is-changing-in-3-ways\">NPR interview<\/a> with David Kilcullen who has written <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Out-Mountains-Coming-Urban-Guerrilla\/dp\/0199737509\">Out of the Mountains<\/a>, a book about war. \u00c2\u00a0One point he made struck me: some people make conflict their business. \u00c2\u00a0These people are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.netuni.nl\/courses\/conflict1\/week2\/entrepreneurs.htm\">conflict entrepreneurs<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0I know this is kind of obvious&#8211;the masters of war and all&#8211;but you do not hear much about it in descriptions of conflicts. \u00c2\u00a0You will hear about the\u00c2\u00a0<em>reasons<\/em> group x has gone to war with group y, but you will not hear about, as parties to the conflict, people whose interests lies in the conflict itself. \u00c2\u00a0These people are war trolls. \u00c2\u00a0He says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>And to me that&#8217;s a great example. Right now we have what I would call a lot of conflict entrepreneurs. They&#8217;re prolonging conflicts not because they want to win some political goal or because they want to change the form of government of a particular area, <strong>but just because they make a lot of money, they get a lot of power from conflict and they want to preserve that conflict to keep going.<\/strong> So I think part of it is about shifting people away from being conflict entrepreneurs to being stakeholders in a peaceful environment.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is another under-theorized (in my mind at least) connection between just war theory and argumentation. \u00c2\u00a0Argumentation tends to take as its central focus the study of reasons&#8211;good ones, bad ones, etc, as they are oriented towards the objectives of argumentation (being correct, convincing, etc.). \u00c2\u00a0 So we watch Bill O&#8217;Reilly and we shake our heads at the poverty of good reasoning, thinking him and his ilk to be ignorant or dishonest.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe, however, their objectives are not the objectives of anyone else: they&#8217;re not trying to be correct, to show someone else to be incorrect, maybe they&#8217;re not even trying to win an argument at all. \u00c2\u00a0They&#8217;re just making sure that unresolvable argumentation continues indefinitely. \u00c2\u00a0This is their job.<\/p>\n<p>**UPDATE: links, other info added above.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This morning, I caught the tail end of an NPR interview with David Kilcullen who has written Out of the Mountains, a book about war. \u00c2\u00a0One point he made struck me: some people make conflict their business. \u00c2\u00a0These people are conflict entrepreneurs. \u00c2\u00a0I know this is kind of obvious&#8211;the masters of war and all&#8211;but you &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4598\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Masters of war<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[1657,911,1816,984],"class_list":["post-4598","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","tag-argumentation","tag-bill-oreilly","tag-conflict-entrepreneurs","tag-just-war-theory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4598","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4598"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4598\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4601,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4598\/revisions\/4601"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4598"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4598"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4598"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}