{"id":4212,"date":"2013-05-25T10:55:33","date_gmt":"2013-05-25T15:55:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4212"},"modified":"2013-05-25T10:55:33","modified_gmt":"2013-05-25T15:55:33","slug":"ossa-day-2-siegel-on-disagreement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4212","title":{"rendered":"OSSA Day 2: Siegel on Disagreement"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Harvey Siegel, &#8220;Argumentation and the epistemology of disagreement&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Q1: When epistemic peers disagree, what should the virtuous believer do?<\/p>\n<p>Four possible responses: (i) give up the original belief and take on the other&#8217;s view, (ii) split the difference, meet in the middle, (iii) suspend judgment altogether, (iv) stck to our guns.<\/p>\n<p>Q2: Does the depth of the disagreement matter?\u00c2\u00a0 E.g., Fogelin&#8217;s challenge on <em>deep disagreement<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Siegel&#8217;s three theses: #1: The cases for disagreement are varied; #2: Peerhood is misunderstood, and #3: Fogelin&#8217;s deep disagreement view is inconsistent with the peer disagreeent view.<\/p>\n<p>RE: peerhood.\u00c2\u00a0 Do peers have: same, equal, or equal access to <em>evidence; <\/em>same or equal intellectual virtues; same, roughly equal epistemic abilities; same, equal, or roughy equal training; same or roughly identical assumptions? Peerhood, if too strict, makes it so that there aren&#8217;t enough peers, but if too broad, makes near everyone a peer.<\/p>\n<p>Fogelin&#8217;s deep disagreement: all the starting points are different, training different, and so on.\u00c2\u00a0 So there&#8217;s no room for real argument.\u00c2\u00a0 Argument requires that we have enough overlap to argue, but in deep cases, not enough overlap for argument.<\/p>\n<p>The wittgensteinian turn &#8211; you don&#8217;t have to argue for or be justified in your &#8216;hinge propositons&#8217;.\u00c2\u00a0 Because hinge propositions are not intelligibly challengeable.<\/p>\n<p>The evidentialist&#8217;s reply: (i) if there&#8217;s no argument or evidence for the view, you still must suspend, and (ii) what do you mean that hinge propositions aren&#8217;t intelligibly challengeable?\u00c2\u00a0 (That&#8217;s what a deep disagreement is, dude.)\u00c2\u00a0 The wittgensteinian line above is a form of infallibilism.\u00c2\u00a0 Yikes!<\/p>\n<p>Siegel&#8217;s line: if Fogelin&#8217;s right about deep disagreement, then it&#8217;s not possible for there to be deep disagreements between peers.\u00c2\u00a0 If they are peers, the disagreement can&#8217;t be deep; if the disagreement is deep, they aren&#8217;t peers.\u00c2\u00a0 (This argument is awesome!)<\/p>\n<p>Comment (R. Pinto):\u00c2\u00a0 Fallibilism can help with disagreement cases &#8212; you can maintain the belief, but look to discussion over time.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Hinge propositions are beyond critical scrutiny, at least practically!<\/p>\n<p>Q: Must deep disagreement have *no* common ground?\u00c2\u00a0 If there&#8217;s no common ground, it&#8217;s hard to see it as a disagreement at all &#8211; to recognize a disagreement, you need to have at least some common concepts and commitments.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Harvey Siegel, &#8220;Argumentation and the epistemology of disagreement&#8221; Q1: When epistemic peers disagree, what should the virtuous believer do? Four possible responses: (i) give up the original belief and take on the other&#8217;s view, (ii) split the difference, meet in the middle, (iii) suspend judgment altogether, (iv) stck to our guns. 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