{"id":4188,"date":"2013-05-19T23:10:12","date_gmt":"2013-05-20T04:10:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4188"},"modified":"2013-05-21T12:13:50","modified_gmt":"2013-05-21T17:13:50","slug":"you-would-have-noticed-this-hypocrisy-if-you-werent-such-a-hypocrite","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4188","title":{"rendered":"You would have noticed this hypocrisy&#8230; if you weren&#8217;t such a hypocrite"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jonah Goldberg at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/article\/348566\/agency-after-obama%E2%80%99s-own-heart-jonah-goldberg\">NRO<\/a> rings up a fantastic subjunctive<em> tu quoque<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Yes, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s extremely unlikely he ordered the IRS to discriminate against tea-party. . . . And his outrage now \u00e2\u20ac\u201d however convenient \u00e2\u20ac\u201d is appreciated. But when people he views as his \u00e2\u20ac\u0153enemies\u00e2\u20ac\u009d complained about a politicized IRS, what did he do? Nothing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Imagine for a moment if<\/strong> black civil-rights organizations, gay groups, or teachers\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 unions loudly complained to members of Congress and the press that the IRS was discriminating against them. How long would it take for the White House to investigate? Answer honestly: Minutes? Hours?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The overall form of subjunctive tu quoque is not that you have <em>actual<\/em> inconsistent behavior or double standards, but that <em>you would have them<\/em>.\u00c2\u00a0 You just know it!\u00c2\u00a0 Of course, this form of <em>tu quoque<\/em> requires, for the subjunctive to be accepted, that the audience think the President is a hypocrite and an employer of double standards.\u00c2\u00a0 So, often, the subjuctive\u00c2\u00a0form of the <em>tu quoque<\/em> isn&#8217;t an argument <em>from <\/em> hypocrisy, but one <em>to <\/em> it.<\/p>\n<p>**A later addition to the post 5\/21\/2013**<\/p>\n<p>For other discussions of\u00c2\u00a0 subjunctive <em>tu quoque<\/em>, see Colin&#8217;s original post <a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=1713\">HERE<\/a>, and John&#8217;s got a lengthy discussion <a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2577\">HERE<\/a>, and we three co-wrote a paper that appeared in <em>INQUIRY<\/em> about a year back, which I&#8217;ve posted on my Academia.edu page <a href=\"http:\/\/www.academia.edu\/593058\/Tu_quoque_arguments_subjunctive_inconsistency_and_questions_of_relevance\">HERE<\/a>. For cases that <em>tu quoque <\/em>arguments are regularly relevant, see one of my recent posts on it <a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4165\">HERE<\/a>, and my essay in\u00c2\u00a0<em>Informal Logic <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/ojs.uwindsor.ca\/ojs\/leddy\/index.php\/informal_logic\/article\/view\/543\">HERE<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jonah Goldberg at NRO rings up a fantastic subjunctive tu quoque: Yes, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s extremely unlikely he ordered the IRS to discriminate against tea-party. . . . And his outrage now \u00e2\u20ac\u201d however convenient \u00e2\u20ac\u201d is appreciated. But when people he views as his \u00e2\u20ac\u0153enemies\u00e2\u20ac\u009d complained about a politicized IRS, what did he do? Nothing. Imagine &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=4188\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">You would have noticed this hypocrisy&#8230; if you weren&#8217;t such a hypocrite<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,44],"tags":[721],"class_list":["post-4188","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tu-quoque","category-goldberg","tag-subjunctive-tu-quoque"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4188","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4188"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4188\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4190,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4188\/revisions\/4190"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4188"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4188"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4188"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}