{"id":3525,"date":"2012-04-08T07:14:15","date_gmt":"2012-04-08T12:14:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3525"},"modified":"2012-04-08T07:14:15","modified_gmt":"2012-04-08T12:14:15","slug":"paul-krugman-on-iron-manning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3525","title":{"rendered":"Paul Krugman on Iron Manning"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If only he know the word for this behavior, his post would be snappier.&nbsp; But <a href=\"http:\/\/krugman.blogs.nytimes.com\/2012\/04\/07\/on-ryan-apologists\/\">here is Paul Krugman <\/a>talking about the phenomenon of Iron Manning.&nbsp; The case at hand is the iron manning of Paul Ryan&#39;s budget plan.&nbsp; You can follow the links in the cited passage.&nbsp; I&#39;ll point out right away, for the skeptics, that there is an empirical element to this charge&#8211;iron manning that is.&nbsp; I think People have accused (rightly) Paul Ryan of being a dishonest tool, so minus one to Krugman on that.&nbsp; Anyway, Krugman writes (via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.balloon-juice.com\/2012\/04\/07\/its-really-not-too-long-before-kthug-punches-bobo-in-the-neck\/\">Balloon Juice<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>In my next life I want to be a conservative policy scammer. Think of how much nicer it would be. Instead of constantly being accused of having evil motives, I&rsquo;d be presumed to have noble intentions no matter how much the actual content of my policy proposals was at odds with such claims. Instead of being accused of saying bad things I never said, I&rsquo;d be given credit for supporting good things I&rsquo;ve never supported. Life would be great!<\/p>\n<p>OK, I&rsquo;m whining. But the continuing defense of Paul Ryan is a remarkable phenomenon. He&rsquo;s still being treated by many pundits as a man deeply concerned about deficits, when the fact is that his policy proposals are <a href=\"http:\/\/krugman.blogs.nytimes.com\/2012\/04\/06\/ryan-in-two-numbers\/\">all about redistributing income upward<\/a>, and make no serious effort to curb debt. He&rsquo;s even given credit for advocating higher taxes on the rich when he has <a href=\"http:\/\/baselinescenario.com\/2012\/04\/06\/someone-is-wrong-in-the-times\/\">more or less specifically rejected<\/a> the things for which he&rsquo;s given credit.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So Ryan has been iron-manned.&nbsp; That&#39;s the reverse of being straw manned.&nbsp; There might be an empirical case that this happens more often to people like Ryan than people like Krugman, but someone else can argue that.&nbsp; I think there is little question, however, that it is the case with Ryan.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Now consider the iron manners:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>What&rsquo;s going on here? The defenders of Ryan come, I&rsquo;d argue, in two types.<\/p>\n<p>One type is the pseudo-reasonable apparatchik. There are a fair number of pundits who make a big show of debating the issues, stroking their chins, and then &mdash; invariably &mdash;<strong> find a way to support whatever the GOP line may be. There&rsquo;s no mystery in their support for Ryan.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The other type is more interesting:<strong> the professional centrist<\/strong>. These are people whose whole pose is one of standing between the extremes of both parties, and calling for a bipartisan solution. The problem they face is how to maintain this pose when the reality is that a quite moderate Democratic party &mdash; one that is content to leave tax rates on the rich far below those that prevailed for most of the past 70 years, that has embraced a Republican health care plan &mdash; faces a radical-reactionary GOP.<\/p>\n<p>What these people need is reasonable Republicans. And if such creatures don&rsquo;t exist, <strong>they have to invent them<\/strong>. Hence the elevation of Ryan &mdash; <strong>who is, in fact, a garden-variety GOP extremist, but with a mild-mannered style <\/strong>&mdash; to icon of fiscal responsibility and honest argument, <strong>despite the reality that his proposals are both fiscally irresponsible and quite dishonest.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>How much longer can this last? I guess we&rsquo;ll eventually find out.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So this is a classic case of iron manning: take a crappy argument, suggest it&#39;s a good one by distortion [of some variety], suggest (by implication) that its critics are extremists or shrill (Krugman).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If only he know the word for this behavior, his post would be snappier.&nbsp; But here is Paul Krugman talking about the phenomenon of Iron Manning.&nbsp; The case at hand is the iron manning of Paul Ryan&#39;s budget plan.&nbsp; You can follow the links in the cited passage.&nbsp; I&#39;ll point out right away, for the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3525\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Paul Krugman on Iron Manning<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1214],"tags":[1299,194,905],"class_list":["post-3525","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-iron-man-straw-man","tag-iron-manning","tag-paul-krugman","tag-paul-ryan"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3525","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3525"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3525\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3526,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3525\/revisions\/3526"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3525"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3525"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3525"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}