{"id":3365,"date":"2012-01-28T09:14:14","date_gmt":"2012-01-28T14:14:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3365"},"modified":"2012-01-28T09:14:14","modified_gmt":"2012-01-28T14:14:14","slug":"taxation-ontology","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3365","title":{"rendered":"Taxation ontology"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Many have heard by now of Mitt Romney&#39;s relatively low (well, very low) tax rate: 13.9 percent on one accounting, 15 percent on another.&nbsp; This is because his income does not come from work, but rather from dividends and other investments.&nbsp; These are taxed at a different rate from work.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I am going to grant that there are arguments for taxing investments differently from work.&nbsp; Some of these arguments might be good ones, or at least strong ones.&nbsp; The one Romney offered in is own defense, however, is not one of them.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Here it goes (<a href=\"http:\/\/talkingpointsmemo.com\/archives\/2012\/01\/romney_actually_i_kind_of_pay_50_tax.php?ref=fpblg\">via TPM<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Romney&rsquo;s argument is that even though he pays only 13.9%, he&rsquo;s really paying something like 45% to 50% because the investment income he lives on comes from corporations. And those corporates also pay taxes. The nominal corporate tax rate is 35%, though of course many pay much lower. But if you add Romney&rsquo;s rate together with this completely unrelated corporate tax he doesn&rsquo;t pay, you get 50%, which Romney is now saying is real tax rate. In other words, he&rsquo;s claiming he pays both taxes.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>See the video at the link.&nbsp; I&#39;m trying to figure out the ontology of this claim.&nbsp; It seems like Romney is saying that taxation runs with the money, as it were.&nbsp; So if a <strong>corporation<\/strong> (which is, after all, people for Romney) makes profits, those profits are taxed.&nbsp; That taxation counts for all of the money that then gets paid out in whatever&nbsp;way by that corporation (including the rise in the value of the stock price, etc.).&nbsp; If the corporation puts the money back into the business, and then later sells the business, the money has already been taxed!&nbsp; If a corporation pays me to do work for it, then I can claim the money they pay me has already been taxed!&nbsp; If I buy a product in a store, I can claim that sales tax has already been paid in huge amounts!<\/p>\n<p>I think this only works if corporations are literally people.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Also, in the video, Romeny included his charitable contributions in his tax burden.&nbsp; Taxes and charity are significantly different, however.&nbsp; Taxes are obligations to your fellow citizens.&nbsp; Charity is up to you.&nbsp; I don&#39;t think he wants us to start thinking of the Mormon Church as a tax-supported entity.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Many have heard by now of Mitt Romney&#39;s relatively low (well, very low) tax rate: 13.9 percent on one accounting, 15 percent on another.&nbsp; This is because his income does not come from work, but rather from dividends and other investments.&nbsp; These are taxed at a different rate from work.&nbsp; I am going to grant &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3365\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Taxation ontology<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[295,1202],"class_list":["post-3365","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","tag-mitt-romney","tag-taxation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3365","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3365"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3365\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3366,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3365\/revisions\/3366"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3365"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3365"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3365"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}