{"id":3114,"date":"2011-08-19T18:46:18","date_gmt":"2011-08-19T23:46:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3114"},"modified":"2011-08-19T18:46:18","modified_gmt":"2011-08-19T23:46:18","slug":"corporations-are-people","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3114","title":{"rendered":"Corporations are people"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>No, <a href=\"http:\/\/tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2011\/08\/romney-releases-web-video-businesses-are-comprised-of-people.php?ref=fpblg\">Mitt Romney<\/a>,&nbsp;they&#39;re not really.&nbsp; They&#39;re completely unlike people in almost every way.&nbsp; They may, however, involve people, real people, at some stage in the process.&nbsp; But this doesn&#39;t mean the corporation simply is the people who work there.&nbsp; That would be, er, communism or socialism.&nbsp; In a recent add, Romney&nbsp;says:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>At just over the halfway mark, Romney declares: &quot;<strong>Businesses<\/strong> are comprised of people. I&#39;m talking about repair shops, and gas stations, and beauty salons, and restaurants. I&#39;m talking about Apple computer, and Facebook, and Microsoft. I&#39;m talking about businesses that employ people. It&#39;s really astonishing to me that the Obama folks would try and argue that businesses aren&#39;t people. What do they think they are? Little men from Mars? <strong>But when they tax business, they tax people<\/strong>.&quot;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, this is different from &quot;corporations are people.&quot;&nbsp; But it&#39;s still equally wrong.&nbsp; It&#39;s wrong now because repair shops and gas stations really don&#39;t belong in the same category as&nbsp;Microsoft, etc..&nbsp; More to the point, the problem with this new formulation is positively Clintonian&#8211;it depends on what the meaning of &quot;is&quot; is.&nbsp; Corporations involve people; sometimes lots of people, transnationally.&nbsp; But they are certainly not identical with them in the narrow sense of identity Romney seems to suggest.&nbsp; Anyway.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>On this same point, here is an epic Iron Man (by a liberal commentator, of course&#8211;it&#39;s a disease they have) of Romney&#39;s argument:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Matthew Zeitlin has a nice <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tnr.com\/blog\/jonathan-chait\/93749\/think-progress-leave-mitt-romney-alone\"><font color=\"#004499\">New Republic post <\/font><\/a>on the Romney &ldquo;corporations are people&rdquo; clip and the very real &ldquo;hack gap&rdquo; between Democratic and Republican parties.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The title of my own comment on this imbroglio, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.samefacts.com\/2011\/08\/politics-and-leadership\/separating-the-wheat-from-the-gaffe\/\"><font color=\"#004499\">Separating the wheat from the gaffe<\/font><\/a>, telegraphs my view. What Romney said is obviously true, and everyone who thinks seriously about economic policy understands it.<\/strong> Taxes on corporations fall on the owners of corporations and on other stakeholders. On the specifics, <strong>this particular attack on Romney is devoid of substance.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So the taxes fall on their &quot;owners&quot; (who sometimes aren&#39;t even actual people), but this doesn&#39;t mean corporations <strong>are<\/strong> people too.&nbsp; It means, at some level, they involve people.&nbsp; No one denies that.&nbsp; They object to the way they involve those people.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No, Mitt Romney,&nbsp;they&#39;re not really.&nbsp; They&#39;re completely unlike people in almost every way.&nbsp; They may, however, involve people, real people, at some stage in the process.&nbsp; But this doesn&#39;t mean the corporation simply is the people who work there.&nbsp; That would be, er, communism or socialism.&nbsp; In a recent add, Romney&nbsp;says: At just over the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3114\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Corporations are people<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[1177,1963,1179,1180,1178,295],"class_list":["post-3114","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","tag-corporations-are-people-too","tag-equivocation","tag-harold-pollack","tag-iron-man","tag-matthew-zeitlin","tag-mitt-romney"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3114","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3114"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3114\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3116,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3114\/revisions\/3116"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3114"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3114"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3114"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}