{"id":3091,"date":"2011-08-09T08:31:04","date_gmt":"2011-08-09T13:31:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3091"},"modified":"2011-08-09T11:12:45","modified_gmt":"2011-08-09T16:12:45","slug":"youre-soaking-in-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3091","title":{"rendered":"You&#8217;re soaking in it!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#39;s been a long time since I&#39;ve read Stanley Fish&#39;s column in the New York Times Online.&nbsp; One reason is that I&#39;m semi-boycotting the Times and their paywall; the other reason is that Fish is a terrible columnist.&nbsp; Thankfully he&#39;s no longer the only type representing the humanities, so it&#39;s safe to go back there.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A favorite theme of his is that philosophy and other such things are abstract activities that have little to do with what one actually believes.&nbsp; He often drives this point home with sophistical equivocations on the meaning of &quot;philosophy,&quot; etc.&nbsp; A quick look at the <a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?cat=62\">archive here<\/a> supports this notion&#8211;or rather supports the notion that this is what most bothers me about Fish.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Equivocations such as his are such an easy thing to spot; and his general view is such a shallow one that you&#39;d think, well, I guess you wouldn&#39;t think.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#39;s <a href=\"http:\/\/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com\/2011\/08\/08\/does-philosophy-matter-part-two\/?ref=opinion\">today&#39;s contribution<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>The question is <strong>whether religion should be considered philosophy<\/strong>. For a long time, of course, <strong>philosophy<\/strong> was included under religion&rsquo;s umbrella, not in the modern sense that leads to courses like &ldquo;The Philosophy of Religion,&rdquo; but in the deeper sense in which religious doctrines are accepted as foundational and philosophy proceeds within them. But for <strong>contemporary philosophers<\/strong> religious doctrines are not part of the enterprise but a threat to it. The spirit is as Andrew Tyler (<a href=\"http:\/\/community.nytimes.com\/comments\/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com\/2011\/08\/01\/does-philosophy-matter\/?permid=38#comment38\"><font color=\"#00325b\">38<\/font><\/a>) describes it: &ldquo;to be skeptical, critical and independent so that you&rsquo;re not so easily duped and frightened into submission by religious dogma.&rdquo; <strong>Courses in the philosophy of religion<\/strong> tacitly subordinate religion to philosophy by subjecting religion to philosophy&rsquo;s questions and standards. Strong religious believers will resist any such subordination because, for them, <strong>religious, not philosophical, imperatives trump<\/strong>. The reason religion can and does serve as a <strong>normative guide to behavior is that it is not a form of philosophy<\/strong>, but a system of belief that binds the believer. (<strong>Philosophy is something you can do occasionally, religion is not<\/strong>.)<\/p>\n<p>But aren&rsquo;t <strong>beliefs and philosophies<\/strong> the same things? No they&rsquo;re not. Beliefs such as &ldquo;I believe that life should not be taken&rdquo; or &ldquo;I believe in giving the other fellow the benefit of the doubt&rdquo; or &ldquo;I believe in the equality of men and women&rdquo; or &ldquo;I believe in turning the other cheek&rdquo; <strong>are at least the partial springs of our actions and are often regarded by those who hold them as moral absolutes;<\/strong> no exceptions recognized. These, however, are <strong>particular beliefs<\/strong> which can be arrived at for any number of reasons, including things your mother told you, the reading of a powerful book, the authority of a respected teacher, an affecting experience that you have generalized into a maxim (&ldquo;From now on I&rsquo;ll speak ill of no one.&rdquo;).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>A little philosophy might help Fish think through this more carefully.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In the first place, &quot;philosophy&quot; has a lot of meanings, even in the context of contemporary philosophy, so it&#39;s not helpful or meaningful to say &quot;contemporary philosophers&quot; as if they shared some&nbsp;single meaning.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Second, &quot;beliefs vs. philosophies&quot; is an opposition&nbsp;few philosophers would recognize (at least as Fish means it).&nbsp; Perhaps Fish means something like attitudes regarding particular propositions and attitudes regarding attitudes about particular propositions.&nbsp; Those are clearly different, one is whether you endorse proposition p, the other is what you think it means to&nbsp;endorse proposition p.&nbsp; Fish seems to think&nbsp;&quot;philosophy&quot;&nbsp;only regards the latter, the meta view as it&nbsp;were.<\/p>\n<p>But that&#39;s not the case.&nbsp; For many philosophers, the subject of which views are the correct ones is indeed a philosophical one.&nbsp; Is it morally permissible, for instance, to tax inherited wealth?&nbsp; An answer to this question might appeal to an abstract principle, in the same way a religious &quot;belief&quot; might do, or it may appeal to something else, in the same way a reglious belief might do.&nbsp; The particularity of the belief in question isn&#39;t the point (as Fish seems to think).&nbsp;&nbsp; All of our beliefs,by the way, are particular; and indeed all of them might be subject to the same kind of causal explanation he seems to think critical (at least this is what my mother has always said).&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So in the end Fish can&#39;t get the idea that some of the stuff philosophy deals with is entirely meta (what is the nature of belief?); some of the stuff it deals with is not meta (looking for an adjective here): is stealing ever just?<\/p>\n<p>Finally, contrary to Fish, philosophy is not optional in the way he imagines it to be.&nbsp; To the&nbsp;extent that you have beliefs&nbsp;at all you&#39;re doing&nbsp;philosophy inasmuch as the little thing that stiches your&nbsp;beliefs together&#8211;the inference&#8211;is a big deal for philosophers.&nbsp; It only appears optional to Fish, I think, because he&#39;s doing it wrong.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#39;s been a long time since I&#39;ve read Stanley Fish&#39;s column in the New York Times Online.&nbsp; One reason is that I&#39;m semi-boycotting the Times and their paywall; the other reason is that Fish is a terrible columnist.&nbsp; Thankfully he&#39;s no longer the only type representing the humanities, so it&#39;s safe to go back there.&nbsp; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=3091\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">You&#8217;re soaking in it!<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,62],"tags":[1963,1172,1988],"class_list":["post-3091","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-equivocation","category-stanley-fish","tag-equivocation","tag-philosophy-and-religion","tag-stanley-fish"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3091","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3091"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3091\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3095,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3091\/revisions\/3095"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3091"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3091"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3091"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}