{"id":2800,"date":"2011-05-21T08:55:45","date_gmt":"2011-05-21T13:55:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2800"},"modified":"2011-05-21T08:55:45","modified_gmt":"2011-05-21T13:55:45","slug":"ossa-day-3-do-we-commit-or-use-fallacies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2800","title":{"rendered":"OSSA Day 3: do we commit or use fallacies?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>IGOR \u00c5\u00bd. \u00c5\u00bdAGAR (Educational Research Institute &amp; Univ. of Maribor, Slovenia)<br \/>\n\tFallacies: Do We &ldquo;Use&rdquo; Them or &ldquo;Commit&rdquo; Them?<\/p>\n<p>Zagar poses two questions . First, an epistemological one: do we (everyone, politicians, the media&#8230;) commit fallacies, or do we (intentionally) use them? Second, a methodological one: when we (philosophers, sociologists, discourse analysts&#8230;) detect a fallacy, on what conceptual grounds do we differentiate between committed and used fallacies? Is there a difference?<\/p>\n<p>Eg1: &quot;France is hexagonal&quot; is only roughly true.&nbsp; It&#039;s not really true, but roughly so.<\/p>\n<p>Eg2: &quot;Eisenhower won that battle&quot; is only roughly true.&nbsp; The soldiers won the battle&#8230; but it&#039;s still acceptable.<\/p>\n<p>So: assessing good arguments (e.g., validity) requires a formal system to be brought in.&nbsp; They are translated into the system and evaluated according to that system.&nbsp; The question is whether we are using the appropriate criteria.<\/p>\n<p>Eg3: If A just wants to get B to accept p.&nbsp; A knows B accepts q, so A gives B the argument: &#039;q, therefore p.&#039;&nbsp; Relative to the criterion of rhetorical success, A&#039;s argument is good.<\/p>\n<p>Can there be a classification of fallacies? Are they too unruly to classify?&nbsp; Are there fallacies at all?&nbsp; If some fallacies seem unavoidable and ever present, then perhaps we should be concerned about classifying it a fallacy.<\/p>\n<p>Eg4: Skepticism about induction becomes acceptance of inductive principles. Asserting from the consequent as abduction.&nbsp; Vicious circles to coherent systems.<\/p>\n<p>Some conclusions: we don&#039;t need to be inflating fallacy theory with more fallacies. Rather, we need to understand the right criteria to understand the various forms of argument we see.&nbsp; Context-dependence (kn owledge of the speakers, circumstances, purposes of discussion) of fallacy assessments, and once we do that, we see that appraisal and acceptability varies.<\/p>\n<p>Q1: One can evaluate arguments relative to context (e.g. in Walton&#039;s work and from the pragma-dialectical perspective) and see lots of fallacies.&nbsp; Sure, context matters, but we can see fallacies still in the contexts.&nbsp; Say, they break the conventions of the speech events. Or they are obstructive moves in the contexts.<\/p>\n<p>Q2: Are you really contesting fallacy theory uberhaupt?&nbsp; Just b\/c arg form X is unavoidable in context C, does that really mean that X isn&#039;t fallacious?&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Q3: Take Bacon&#039;s Doctrine of the Idols.&nbsp; It&#039;s a story of the development of superstitions.&nbsp; Aren&#039;t these observations useful?&nbsp; We need to cultivate a package of habits that are attentive to these vices.<\/p>\n<p>Q4: Isn&#039;t this a false dilemma?&nbsp; It&#039;s either a perfect crystaline form for evaluation or all subjective?&nbsp; Don&#039;t most theories of argumentation work on working out a tertium quid?<\/p>\n<p>Q5: What about equivocation?&nbsp; Isn&#039;t that a fallacy, even on the subjectivist account?<\/p>\n<p>Q6: Isn&#039;t reasoning a rule bound excercise?&nbsp; Fallacies are cases where we break the rules.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>IGOR \u00c5\u00bd. \u00c5\u00bdAGAR (Educational Research Institute &amp; Univ. of Maribor, Slovenia) Fallacies: Do We &ldquo;Use&rdquo; Them or &ldquo;Commit&rdquo; Them? Zagar poses two questions . First, an epistemological one: do we (everyone, politicians, the media&#8230;) commit fallacies, or do we (intentionally) use them? 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