{"id":2552,"date":"2011-03-03T11:37:26","date_gmt":"2011-03-03T16:37:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2552"},"modified":"2011-03-03T11:37:26","modified_gmt":"2011-03-03T16:37:26","slug":"berkeleys-master-fallacy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2552","title":{"rendered":"Berkeley&#8217;s Master Fallacy?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#039;m currently teaching Modern Philosophy, and we are reading Berkeley&#039;s <em>Three Dialogues.<\/em>&nbsp; Philonous&#039;s presentation of what Gallois (<a>1974 <\/a><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jstor.org\/sici?sici=0031-8108(197401)83:1%3c55:BMA\">Phil Review<\/a><\/em>) calls&nbsp;Berkeley&#039;s<strong> &quot;Master Argument&quot;&nbsp; (MA) <\/strong>was always particularly striking to me.&nbsp;&nbsp; The majority of my concern about the argument was along Bertrand Russell&#039;s line of resistance: there is&nbsp;a confusion between imagining, say, a tree independent of mind and holding that the tree, in imagination, is dependent on the mind.&nbsp; So I&#039;m not sure the argument is sound. &nbsp;I still have that concern, but yesterday morning I found myself having another problem with the argument.&nbsp; Maybe NonSequitur readers can help me out here, because I, now,&nbsp;don&#039;t&nbsp;even&nbsp;think the argument is valid.&nbsp; But it can be revised.&nbsp; Here goes.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#039;s Philonous&#039;s presentation of the MA&nbsp;(edited for space):<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I am content to put the whole upon this issue.&nbsp; <strong>If you can conceive it possible for &#8230; any sensible object whatsover to exist without the mind, then I will grant it actually to be so<\/strong>&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Is it not as great a contradiction to talk of <em>conceiveing<\/em>&nbsp; a thing which is <em>unconceived?<\/em>&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, I&#039;ve always understood the MA to be one that establishes the falsity of materialism (or non-mentalism)&nbsp;and the truth of idealism (as the two being mutually exclusive and exhastive options).&nbsp; That is, if you show the falsity of one, you&#039;ve established the other.&nbsp; The <strong>MA<\/strong> is a demonstration that materialism is false.&nbsp; But as stated, it doesn&#039;t do so validly.&nbsp; Here&#039;s a formalized version:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px\"><strong>P1)<\/strong> If it is possible to conceive of a sensible&nbsp;object w\/o a mind, then it is possible that those things exist without minds.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px\"><strong>P2)<\/strong> It is not possible to concieve of a sensible object w\/o a mind.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px\"><strong>C)<\/strong>&nbsp;It is not possible that there are sensible objects without minds.<\/p>\n<p>Again, most folks object to P2.&nbsp; That still seems right to me.&nbsp; But even if you grant P2, the argument doesn&#039;t go through, because it&#039;s a fallacious form of inference: <em>Denying the antecedent<\/em>.&nbsp; That is, the form of the argument is:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px\"><strong>P1)<\/strong> If P, then M<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px\"><strong>P2)<\/strong> not-P<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px\"><strong>C)<\/strong> not-M<\/p>\n<p>This is craziness.&nbsp; Now, I think that there are two options for Berkeley-defenders to go here.&nbsp; <strong>The first <\/strong>is to say that C, because it&#039;s not explicitly stated, isn&#039;t the conclusion.&nbsp; But Philonous certainly seems to be convinced that he&#039;s shown not-M in the follow-up with Hylas.&nbsp; And in the <em>Principles, <\/em>Berkeley takes it that MP on P1 with P2 establishes the falsity of idealism:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>[I]f you can but conceive it possible for &#8230; any thing like an idea, to exist otherwise than in a mind perceiving it, <strong>I shall readily give up the cause<\/strong>. (PHK&nbsp; 22)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, this seems clear that he does think that P2 establishes certain truths, specifically, the truth of materialism and the falsity of idealism.&nbsp; So I&#039;m unsure that this first option is really a good interpretive one for Berkeley-defenders.&nbsp; But it seems&nbsp; plausible philosophically.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The second <\/strong>option is to read all those IF-clauses as ONLY IF-clauses.&nbsp;And so P1 should be, rather:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px\"><strong>P1*)&nbsp;<\/strong>&nbsp;I will agree&nbsp;that Materialism is true ONLY IF it is possible to concieve of a thing existing independently of a mind.<\/p>\n<p>P2, then, works just fine to show that Materialism is false, by <em>Modus Tollens<\/em>, now.&nbsp; So the other interpretive strategy is to read Berkeley&#039;s argument as needing a switch of antecedents and consequents.<\/p>\n<p>This, by the way, seems <em>even more <\/em>philosophically plausible than the first option, as I think that P1* is much more plausible than P1.&nbsp; Just because materialism is concievable, it doesn&#039;t mean that materialism is true (as P1 runs); but if materialism isn&#039;t even consistently conceivable, then that counts as very good evidence that it&#039;s false (as P1* runs).&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So this strategy saves the <strong>MA<\/strong> from the fallacy of denying the antecedent and has it with a more philosophically plausible first premise.&nbsp; The only problem: you have to take it that Berkeley mixed up necessary and sufficient conditions.&nbsp; When he&#039;s doing metaphysics.&nbsp; That&#039;s uncharitable, to say the least.&nbsp; Oh, and it&nbsp;also doesn&#039;t save it from the old Russell objection that P2 is just false.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#039;m currently teaching Modern Philosophy, and we are reading Berkeley&#039;s Three Dialogues.&nbsp; Philonous&#039;s presentation of what Gallois (1974 Phil Review) calls&nbsp;Berkeley&#039;s &quot;Master Argument&quot;&nbsp; (MA) was always particularly striking to me.&nbsp;&nbsp; The majority of my concern about the argument was along Bertrand Russell&#039;s line of resistance: there is&nbsp;a confusion between imagining, say, a tree independent of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2552\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Berkeley&#8217;s Master Fallacy?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[76,31,1],"tags":[956,954,957,955],"class_list":["post-2552","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-argument-problems","category-formal-fallacies","category-general","tag-fallacy-of-denying-the-antecedent","tag-george-berkeley","tag-idealism","tag-master-argument"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2552","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2552"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2552\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2558,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2552\/revisions\/2558"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2552"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2552"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2552"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}