{"id":203,"date":"2006-07-20T10:24:43","date_gmt":"2006-07-20T14:24:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=203"},"modified":"2006-09-28T09:05:24","modified_gmt":"2006-09-28T13:05:24","slug":"chicken-soup-for-the-argument","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=203","title":{"rendered":"Chicken soup for the argument"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Though I have no doubt <a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?cat=5\">David Brooks<\/a> is unaware of us&#8211;especially since we almost never comment on him as he is <a href=\"http:\/\/select.nytimes.com\/2006\/07\/20\/opinion\/20brooks.html?hp\">firewalled<\/a>&#8211;I was surprised to see that something of the idea of <a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=202\">whom<\/a> to ask critical <a href=\"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=197\">questions<\/a> about people places and things has crossed his mind:<\/p>\n<p>>It happened just over a year ago in Key West, of all places. We\u2019d come down for a conference organized by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, and one afternoon two friends, Reuel Gerecht and Jeffrey Goldberg, squared off for a debate on the prospects for democracy in the Middle East.<\/p>\n<p>>Gerecht and Goldberg are Americans whose fascination with Islam has taken them to *ridiculous places.* Gerecht, a former member of the C.I.A. clandestine service, spends an astonishing amount of time in spare rooms in Middle East backwaters talking fatwas in klatches with bearded fundamentalists.<\/p>\n<p>>Goldberg has lived in a madrasa in Pakistan. His pieces from inside Hezbollah won a National Magazine Award for The New Yorker. In the fall he has a book, \u201cPrisoners,\u201d coming out about his time as a prison guard in the Israeli Army, and his friendships with the Palestinian detainees.<\/p>\n<p>You read that right&#8211;&#8220;ridiculous places&#8221;&#8211;as if to foreshadow where we are going in this piece.<\/p>\n<p>Believe it or not, these two individuals &#8220;disagree utterly about the path to Arab democracy.&#8221;  But which *one* of them will be right?  The Middle East is such a *ridiculous* place, so how better to resolve the dispute about its future between two ridiculously adventurous westerners (they actually went to the Middle East and talked to those people?  That&#8217;s ridiculous!) than with a ridiculous analogy:<\/p>\n<p>>The only way to reform the Middle East, Gerecht concluded, is by changing political institutions and enduring as the spirit of democratic self-government slowly changes society. *There will be a period of fever, but the fever will break the disease.*<\/p>\n<p>What a fitting analogy!  But wait:<\/p>\n<p>>When it was Goldberg\u2019s turn (the transcript is available online at pewforum.org), his first observation was that *sometimes fevers break the disease but sometimes they kill the patient*.<\/p>\n<p>Zing!  Excellent point Dr.Goldberg!  How will the moderator resolve it?<\/p>\n<p>>What this debate is really about is *the mother of all chicken-and-egg problems.* Can we use political reform *to spark* cultural change, or do we have to wait for cultural reformation before *we* can change politics?<\/p>\n<p>The concept of agency at work in this piece is so 19th Century: why bother asking people from the land of the ridiculous to participate? (maybe, and this is admittedly a ridiculous suggestion, they have another view, or views).  Surely they couldn&#8217;t have come up with the chicken and egg metaphor for their predicament&#8211;that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re ridiculous.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Though I have no doubt David Brooks is unaware of us&#8211;especially since we almost never comment on him as he is firewalled&#8211;I was surprised to see that something of the idea of whom to ask critical questions about people places and things has crossed his mind: >It happened just over a year ago in Key &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=203\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Chicken soup for the argument<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,9,18,23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-203","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-brooks","category-false-dichotomy","category-unqualified-authority","category-weak-analogy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/203","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=203"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/203\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=203"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=203"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=203"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}