{"id":2028,"date":"2010-07-21T09:49:32","date_gmt":"2010-07-21T14:49:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2028"},"modified":"2010-07-21T09:57:25","modified_gmt":"2010-07-21T14:57:25","slug":"raw-deal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2028","title":{"rendered":"Raw deal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#39;s farmers&#39; market season, so it&#39;s time for a food-related post.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/id\/2260389\">Slate<\/a> ran an article by a professor of science journalism on the possible ill effects of consuming raw milk.&nbsp; To be more precise, Slate ran an attack on weak man arguments in favor of drinking raw milk, complete with weak man digs against other pro-organic positions.&nbsp; This, I think, is especially&nbsp;egregious, not only of Slate but of the author, who as a professor of journalism really seriously&nbsp;ought to know better than to engage in such behavior.&nbsp; Here&#39;s a representative graph:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>And it&#39;s in this incarnation&mdash;the one that draws a cultlike following&mdash;that the raw-milk ideal becomes dangerous. They&#39;re not alone, of course; pure-food advocates in general tend to cast a romanticized glow over their favored products. We hear that old-fashioned organic produce contains more nutrients than that grown by modern agriculture, despite the fact that most research suggests that, basically, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2008\/TECH\/science\/08\/19\/organic.cooking.pv\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">a carrot is a carrot<\/a> and one spinach leaf is pretty much another (and all lose nutrients as they sit on a shelf). We hear that we should return to old-fashioned farming methods, advice that ignores the key fact that such techniques are so inefficient that they <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/environment\/green-living\/the-great-organic-myths-why-organic-foods-are-an-indulgence-the-world-cant-afford-818585.html\" target=\"_blank\">can&#39;t sustain the world&#39;s current population<\/a>. There&#39;s an element of wishful thinking to many food mythologies, but&mdash;unlike the haloed status of raw milk&mdash;most don&#39;t lead directly to risky behavior or public health concerns or physicians complaining that increased consumption of &quot;nature&#39;s perfect food&quot; has led to a recent doubling in the number of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.getbetterhealth.com\/raw-milk-got-diarrhea\/2009.05.26\" target=\"_blank\">milk-borne disease outbreaks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#39;m going to presume that the readers of&nbsp;Slate are not going to be all that&nbsp;familiar with&nbsp;debates about raw milk and biodynamic farming methods.&nbsp; It think it&#39;s also safe to assume that the likely reader of this piece doesn&#39;t have a stake in the argument&#8211;they&#39;re not a partisan looking for confirmation of their vision of the dialectical opposition.&nbsp; This fact makes the weak manning here all the more egregious.&nbsp; People know, or ought to know, where a partisan agenda is being advanced.&nbsp; You&#39;re a fool (and sadly many are) if you think you&#39;re going to get an honest picture of liberals from the Rush Limbaugh show.&nbsp; In this case, however, one might be excused for having one&#39;s guard down.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Now of course, it&#39;s certainly true that some advocates of raw milk are nuts (the author has picked them)&#8211;they make nutty claims without basis in any kind of evidence for the magical properties of raw milk.&nbsp; Some of these nuts even dismiss the very obvious dangers of raw milk consumption with the most ridiculous of sophistries.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless,&nbsp;many people&nbsp;drink raw milk (and in general advocate for various organic farming methods).&nbsp; Some of these people have compelling arguments.&nbsp; Many of them have&nbsp;arguments that pass the initial test of plausibility.&nbsp; But you&#39;d never get that idea from this piece.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#39;s farmers&#39; market season, so it&#39;s time for a food-related post.&nbsp; Slate ran an article by a professor of science journalism on the possible ill effects of consuming raw milk.&nbsp; To be more precise, Slate ran an attack on weak man arguments in favor of drinking raw milk, complete with weak man digs against other &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/?p=2028\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Raw deal<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,571],"tags":[717,716,715,412],"class_list":["post-2028","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-straw-man","category-weak-man-straw-man-fallacies-of-relevance-fallacies-argument-problems","tag-farmers-markets","tag-organic-food","tag-raw-milk","tag-weak-man"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2028","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2028"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2028\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2030,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2028\/revisions\/2030"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2028"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2028"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thenonsequitur.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2028"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}